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2 years 5 months ago #32279 by NeXuS
Kindly asking for an explanation was created by NeXuS
Hi everyone!

Name is /~'NeXuS'~/ and the serial is 5900c908d2e6439d987f1ece95084400

I have been banned just now permanently with this reason: racist mumble ( IMAGE )

Its gonna be a really short story cause there isn't really anything that gave reason to any admin to ban me but that's only in my opinion. I was in a squad where when we rushed a CP together, guys shouted things like "for the motherland" and "for Stalin" and other communist stuff but for fun not racism intended against anyone. I then shouted "for the Reich, for Hitler" in the same way, they all laughed and then baaam, permanent ban. 

That's it. That is all that happened. I didn't say any racist stuff, didn't hurt anyone, I just joined the server like 10 mins ago. I don't really see why I was racist, I would at least be grateful if the admin who banned me now could at least explain to me why saying Hitler is any worse than saying Stalin or any other like these two. Both were war criminals and communism even had higher casualties than nazism. One is just as bad as the other, not really any difference between the two if you only look at the results, innocent people murdered because of one men.

I know I probably won't get unbanned because even in the real world we can have soviet red stars everywhere, celebrate communism openly in any country, communist leaders and criminals still in the leadership and government positions but swastika is banned, Hitler and nazism are forbidden.. which would be fine if communism would be looked at the same way. I don't necessarily want myself to be unbanned if you really feel that this joke -even though didn't mean to hurt anyone- was racist. I just want you all or at least the admin to understand me. In case my action was offensive and broke the rules, I want those guys in the SPETSNAZ squad as well to be banned too who shouted out loudly as a funny thing USSR/bolshevist slogans and the name of a war criminal who setup even worse camps than the nazis had and in some way committed much worse atrocities and crimes against humanity. 

What if my grandparents were murdered by red army soldiers who actually raped women and children and burned everything throughout my country? What if I feel offended by them saying communist things? I guess its fine right, who cares?
Same goes for those who's parents were killed by nazi officers in the camps? Not really, that's awful to even recall and you deserve the worst punishment without even a warning. I guess now that's how HOG justice system works. 
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2 years 5 months ago #32281 by =MeRk= BluFFeR
Replied by =MeRk= BluFFeR on topic Kindly asking for an explanation
Look at what you typed in your post regarding what you said...
Now you got multiple reports from various people who take what you said very offensive.
Do you believe what you were saying is right? Has morals? And conforms to the server rules??
I think not, ban duration will be left with the senior admins.

Grow up.......
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2 years 5 months ago #32293 by Deleted
Replied by Deleted on topic Kindly asking for an explanation
Do you think what you said is stupid? Yes or No?
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2 years 5 months ago #32307 by NeXuS
Replied by NeXuS on topic Kindly asking for an explanation
No. Like I said it is what it is, and what they said is also what it is. Was it meant only as I joke from both parties? Yes. Have both parties received same punishment for same actions? No.
If communism(bolshevism) is fine then so is socialism(nazism). If one is banned then so is the other. If we both committed the same atrocities but only I was the one who got banned then the reason wasn't what the note said, it was discrimination. ..and you talk about racism? Very objective of you.
Racism would mean we differentiate people by their culture/homeland/skincolor and eliminate those who we do not favor.
What you do is discriminate or distinguish me from them because I said the name of a dictator war criminal while they said the name of another dictator war criminal but you only favor one of the two so HOG provides protection for those who follow what they stand for which seems to be communism.
Please clarify the rules so other players won't be deceived by this. Rules should be clear and predictable, say then only nazism and Hitler is banned, all other crimes against humanity is fine and welcome by us. Forgive me I didn't know that, I misunderstood the rules although its perfectly understandable, how could you possibly hate your own communist heritage, not like admins should proceed objectively in this case. I wonder how it would have turned out if your heritage were nazis, guess we couldn't have this little chat now.
Liberal anti-racism would be literally utopist equality among all people on this world no matter their color nor view on things. You just managed to make a perfect example of that. Different views crossed, same rules broken and only the one you chose by your preferences is punished. Nazis also distinguished those who were not up to their preferences, they kinda ended up banned through the chimneys ;) Soviets banned them by other demands.
Both mine and their action broke the same rule in a different way and only one of us got banned. That's the result and I think my question has just been answered.
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2 years 5 months ago #32308 by Delete_UAll
Replied by Delete_UAll on topic Kindly asking for an explanation
That is a lot of self claimed credit and experience over things that never personally happened to you, that you have not seen.

As even if it would even be possible, but it does seem as if youre attempting to create identity or character from them of yourself.

Theres so many conflicts in your claims from actually categorizing as communism defending human respectability but yet you call them rapists and killers.

There is barely any if no arguments against Nazism. Instead, that is your goal anyway - by taking your part in what you may think as offering your share to Nazis defense and in attempt to define "the enemy" - which is exactly what Nazis do : systematically attack persecute any autonomous group, using same terms everywhere (ie. "utopia")

You're wrong starting from the idea that this is a battle of two evils somehow. World is past that, and this forum and server is past that, the admins the current and the fucking future and you're obviously confused.
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2 years 5 months ago #32315 by Deleted
Replied by Deleted on topic Kindly asking for an explanation

No.


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