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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #6963
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I was with Eagle in the BMP-3. A Warrior was engaging our INF from that area, we killed it, took a lot of damage and caught on fire while being rushed by its partner. Hitman killed it with an AG-30, engaged a TOW aiming at them, and ran off.
If a tank shoots next to\out of DOD, it's fair game IMHO.
If a tank shoots next to\out of DOD, it's fair game IMHO.
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8 years 3 months ago #6964
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The tank was RTB from the overpass area. NOT his DOD. We moved to cut off his retreat.
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8 years 3 months ago #6969
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The APC was killed on the mark. You where playing hide and seek with it in the hills.
STAY AWAY FROM MAIN BASES!! why is this so hard to understand???
If it was Muttrah, and you drove out MEC main with the beast, and you got killed as soon as you where down from the ramp out of main, which is out of dod, im pretty sure you wouldnt say "ups to bad, lets respawn and take the Mtlb" you would demand the killers head on a platter.
You have NOTHING to do that close to their main, why dont you get that?
@Eagle I get that, but they still have nothing to do there.
If I where to park a tank same distance from their main, and as soon apc or tank came out, Take it out, because otherwise he would shot you. Does that make it alright? Or what if the apc starts shooting, I know he cant kill me instantly, but im just returning fire. There is no situation that would end well. Because either I would shot him before he shots me, or I would shot in selfdefense. Now mirror that thought. Im comming out of main, and see a tank. What should I do? Ignore it? hoping it wont kill me? since im in dod? Shot it first hoping to kill it? Drive 1 meter of out dod only to get shot by the tank?
There is NO scenario where it goes well. Hence STAY AWAY FROM MAIN BASES. Its the same bloody excuse I hear when players baserape or they or shooting out of main. "But they are shooting me as I leave main..." "They are shooting me from their main, im only defending my self" And puff, you have full escalation where everyone near is baseraping and/or everyone is shotting from main defending them self.
The stay away from main bases rule is there to stop such situation from occuring.
STAY AWAY FROM MAIN BASES!! why is this so hard to understand???
If it was Muttrah, and you drove out MEC main with the beast, and you got killed as soon as you where down from the ramp out of main, which is out of dod, im pretty sure you wouldnt say "ups to bad, lets respawn and take the Mtlb" you would demand the killers head on a platter.
You have NOTHING to do that close to their main, why dont you get that?
@Eagle I get that, but they still have nothing to do there.
If I where to park a tank same distance from their main, and as soon apc or tank came out, Take it out, because otherwise he would shot you. Does that make it alright? Or what if the apc starts shooting, I know he cant kill me instantly, but im just returning fire. There is no situation that would end well. Because either I would shot him before he shots me, or I would shot in selfdefense. Now mirror that thought. Im comming out of main, and see a tank. What should I do? Ignore it? hoping it wont kill me? since im in dod? Shot it first hoping to kill it? Drive 1 meter of out dod only to get shot by the tank?
There is NO scenario where it goes well. Hence STAY AWAY FROM MAIN BASES. Its the same bloody excuse I hear when players baserape or they or shooting out of main. "But they are shooting me as I leave main..." "They are shooting me from their main, im only defending my self" And puff, you have full escalation where everyone near is baseraping and/or everyone is shotting from main defending them self.
The stay away from main bases rule is there to stop such situation from occuring.
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #6973
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So what your saying is do not go near the last flag on AAS because you will be perma banned? ok if thats the case i think their should be a rule at-least about it because all that we were doing was caping and controlling last flag. They shot from their main and we engaged back. We WAITED for them to do this because everyone knows its a problem on this map when the brits get steamrolled. I would also like to add that their was no warning and we were banned after leaving mec main after rtb. I would like to request again that the battlerecorder be shown because i fell this would give the absolute showing on the situation from our angle.
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8 years 3 months ago #6974
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Again, we went there because we were being engaged while in the south portion of air port which is no where near their DOD. You can pull the battle recorder and watch us get hit while inside the fenced area. I'm not going to continue to dispute this with you as it seems your mind is made up. This issue happens on this map on both sides. When their team pushes MEC back to 1st cap this also happens. Its the the map layout. I just feel like you should at least have provided us the respect to warn us once, when we were first too close to their main since "you were monitoring the situation closely from PRISM". Instead you simply drop the ban hammer 5-6 minutes after we had already LEFT the area. We play on your server often with several of your admins. Hell, your admin was in my squad and didn't say anything. If we would have had multiple problems in the past I would agree in the action being justified. I'm certain we have never had problems here before. It's too bad really. I have enjoyed your server your a long time.
I will again ask you to post the battle recorder. Again I will ask you to unban us. Again I will ask you to listen to your ADMIN who was there with us. Although I'm almost certain you will do none of the things I ask you to as your reputation precedes you.
I will again ask you to post the battle recorder. Again I will ask you to unban us. Again I will ask you to listen to your ADMIN who was there with us. Although I'm almost certain you will do none of the things I ask you to as your reputation precedes you.
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8 years 3 months ago - 8 years 3 months ago #6975
by Jevski
How does sitting just outside DOD suddenly translate into "do not go near the last flag. They are NOWHERE near each other. The last flag is 4 grids to your north....How the fuck does that have any relation to sitting 50 or meters outside dod.
You still dont get why you stay away from mains. Its not a problem on this map..Its a problem ON ALMOST EVERY MAP, which is WHY YOU DO NOT GO NEAR ENEMY MAIN. How are the rules not clear??
If he can shoot you, you can shoot him. Why do you have to go towards the main?
Bases that have no flag on them are considered out of limits. People that are trying to bend the rules or like testing the limits will be removed. The rules are clear enough, stay away from main bases.
By being just outside their dod you are forcing every one into the situation I described earlier. I cant understand why you dont get that.
And again I refer to the rules......
We expect everyone who plays on HOG servers to understand the rules and because of this, we do NOT issue warnings when rules are broken.
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So what your saying is do not go near the last flag on AAS because you will be perma banned? ok if thats the case i think their should be a rule at-least about it because all that we were doing was caping and controlling last flag.
How does sitting just outside DOD suddenly translate into "do not go near the last flag. They are NOWHERE near each other. The last flag is 4 grids to your north....How the fuck does that have any relation to sitting 50 or meters outside dod.
You still dont get why you stay away from mains. Its not a problem on this map..Its a problem ON ALMOST EVERY MAP, which is WHY YOU DO NOT GO NEAR ENEMY MAIN. How are the rules not clear??
Again, we went there because we were being engaged while in the south portion of air port which is no where near their DOD.
If he can shoot you, you can shoot him. Why do you have to go towards the main?
Bases that have no flag on them are considered out of limits. People that are trying to bend the rules or like testing the limits will be removed. The rules are clear enough, stay away from main bases.
By being just outside their dod you are forcing every one into the situation I described earlier. I cant understand why you dont get that.
I would also like to add that their was no warning
And again I refer to the rules......
We expect everyone who plays on HOG servers to understand the rules and because of this, we do NOT issue warnings when rules are broken.
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