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5 years 2 months ago #25524
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That's not first time it happened to me and i think that many other players are affected too.
There was situation on Al Basahr (2019.08.26 18:21 tracker record) when I was leading trans sq and my sq mate (EyPog) flew into me which resulted in both helis crash and full squad loss (around 3:14:50 tracker time). Game recorded and displayed that i teamkilled few people and someone tempbanned me (i don't know how to check who).
My only problem is that nobody asked me nor my buddy or affected squad what really happened and if somebody should be banned/kicked. You can see in tracker what people were saing about situation after I got banne (and even after people said it wasnt my fault admin did nothing about it). Thats not first time i got banned immediately after incident without any questions or asking people who saw incident. I think it really affects quality of some peoples' game on HOG. It's fun server to play and I wanted to support it in future, but when some admin is destroying my evening with PR like this it's pretty demotivating :/ We all know accidents happen, but I think that experienced players (as admins should be) know that BF2 isn't ideal and there are some weird TK rules and quirks. Just one minute to ask people if TK was intentional and what happened isn't that much compared to 3 or more hours out of game for somebody (which maybe are only 3h in month for somebody to chill with PR)
I don't know what you think about this whole fast-banning thing. Maybe i wasted some time writing this. Just wanted to share my thoughts.
English is not my first language, if something is unclear I will try to explain again.
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There was situation on Al Basahr (2019.08.26 18:21 tracker record) when I was leading trans sq and my sq mate (EyPog) flew into me which resulted in both helis crash and full squad loss (around 3:14:50 tracker time). Game recorded and displayed that i teamkilled few people and someone tempbanned me (i don't know how to check who).
My only problem is that nobody asked me nor my buddy or affected squad what really happened and if somebody should be banned/kicked. You can see in tracker what people were saing about situation after I got banne (and even after people said it wasnt my fault admin did nothing about it). Thats not first time i got banned immediately after incident without any questions or asking people who saw incident. I think it really affects quality of some peoples' game on HOG. It's fun server to play and I wanted to support it in future, but when some admin is destroying my evening with PR like this it's pretty demotivating :/ We all know accidents happen, but I think that experienced players (as admins should be) know that BF2 isn't ideal and there are some weird TK rules and quirks. Just one minute to ask people if TK was intentional and what happened isn't that much compared to 3 or more hours out of game for somebody (which maybe are only 3h in month for somebody to chill with PR)
I don't know what you think about this whole fast-banning thing. Maybe i wasted some time writing this. Just wanted to share my thoughts.
English is not my first language, if something is unclear I will try to explain again.
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5 years 2 months ago #25529
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We dont have fast banning on HOG. What that means is the admins are REQUIRED to INVESTIGATE BEFORE BANNING. I guess you can lay blame on me for ineffective training.
I'll look into this, you are 100 percent right, if your story is accurate, that the admins should look into things before taking action.
I'll look into this, you are 100 percent right, if your story is accurate, that the admins should look into things before taking action.
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5 years 2 months ago #25530
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[2019-08-26 18:14] 733efcc91dca71da0fea7bcf9c97e054 PiEn mass tk banned by =HOG= xXsoapXx98 (10800)
Soap? Did you investigate this incident before banning?
Soap? Did you investigate this incident before banning?
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5 years 2 months ago #25534
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I only saw the 6 or 7 teamkills display on the screen i though u where Trolling or something thats why i took action and tempban you like other admins will do when they see a mass tk happening
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5 years 2 months ago #25535
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then you did wrong if what he did was an accident, refer to the admin training and the admin directives, you should not have banned this person if what he says is true and the fact you did not look into anything.
Replied by =HOG= __Super_6__5__ on topic Is reckless banning really necessary? Loose thoughts about the quick bans.
I only saw the 6 or 7 teamkills display on the screen i though u where Trolling or something thats why i took action and tempban you like other admins will do when they see a mass tk happening
then you did wrong if what he did was an accident, refer to the admin training and the admin directives, you should not have banned this person if what he says is true and the fact you did not look into anything.
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5 years 2 months ago #25536
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Welp I'm sorry about that I was on the other side of the map with my apc squad I'll try to investigate and perform better before taking actions on the players
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