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4 years 5 months ago #27959
by Chefmoto
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So I'll start this off by saying I know my recent history here, I know I may not be well-liked by certain admins and some of you frankly probably just don't care for me or any of TZ. That's fine, no issues with that from me.
Tonight I hopped on PR when I got home and saw the server was seeding so I hopped on to help. I noticed the server was nearing capacity yet the set map was Carentan Skirmish. I understand the rules, and I understand all chat is expected to be kept to a minimum. The server was seeding and everything was pretty casual and I didn't think I was being disruptive. I pointed out the issue a couple of times in all chat, and I don't believe I was being hostile or antagonizing anyone. After my second time mentioning it, I was promptly kicked. Right before I was kicked there were plenty of other people typing in all chat as well as someone saying "Bye Chef."
I joined the discord channel to discuss the issue with R1ghty, who promptly asked me if I understood the rules. I calmly tried to discuss the issue with him and it was clear he didn't really care or see the inconsistencies in his decision. I later messaged him very respectfully and was met with this response. https://imgur.com/a/sQMiFgq
I just don't understand the hostility or why it was handled in this manner. Very off-putting to be met with this kind of behavior when I really don't feel like I was being disrespectful. I don't think being kicked from a server is a big deal, I just don't understand this mindset or attitude from someone in a position of power. I don't think it's a healthy way to engage with your community, especially when it occurred during seeding.
If this post is in the wrong section feel free to move it where it belongs.
Regards,
Chef
Tonight I hopped on PR when I got home and saw the server was seeding so I hopped on to help. I noticed the server was nearing capacity yet the set map was Carentan Skirmish. I understand the rules, and I understand all chat is expected to be kept to a minimum. The server was seeding and everything was pretty casual and I didn't think I was being disruptive. I pointed out the issue a couple of times in all chat, and I don't believe I was being hostile or antagonizing anyone. After my second time mentioning it, I was promptly kicked. Right before I was kicked there were plenty of other people typing in all chat as well as someone saying "Bye Chef."
I joined the discord channel to discuss the issue with R1ghty, who promptly asked me if I understood the rules. I calmly tried to discuss the issue with him and it was clear he didn't really care or see the inconsistencies in his decision. I later messaged him very respectfully and was met with this response. https://imgur.com/a/sQMiFgq
I just don't understand the hostility or why it was handled in this manner. Very off-putting to be met with this kind of behavior when I really don't feel like I was being disrespectful. I don't think being kicked from a server is a big deal, I just don't understand this mindset or attitude from someone in a position of power. I don't think it's a healthy way to engage with your community, especially when it occurred during seeding.
If this post is in the wrong section feel free to move it where it belongs.
Regards,
Chef
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4 years 5 months ago - 4 years 5 months ago #27960
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We're having a lot of trouble with you folks. You were warned for all chat, and you kept going and got kicked. There are 60 other people on the server, the world does not revolve around YOU. The issue starts with you. We do not argue in-game because 50 other people don't care and just want to play the game. If you were warned according to the rules, stop, otherwise get admined.
On a separate subject, sometimes we set maps that do not get played, including skirmish. If you don't like it, tell the map maker and ask them to remove it.
I'll say it again, the world does not revolve around you and your friends, because all the logs I have seen, you guys think this is your playground. I'm sure you disagree with that, its natural. But gosh, next time you type in all chat, remember this and reflect.
You were the only one complaining about next map in all chat. You were warned about all chat. You continue in all chat. You get kicked for continuing after previous warning.
Report denied.
On a separate subject, sometimes we set maps that do not get played, including skirmish. If you don't like it, tell the map maker and ask them to remove it.
I'll say it again, the world does not revolve around you and your friends, because all the logs I have seen, you guys think this is your playground. I'm sure you disagree with that, its natural. But gosh, next time you type in all chat, remember this and reflect.
You were the only one complaining about next map in all chat. You were warned about all chat. You continue in all chat. You get kicked for continuing after previous warning.
Report denied.
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4 years 5 months ago #27965
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I think you’re misunderstanding where I’m coming from with this. I understand the all chat rule. It’s more the issue with how some of you tend to behave towards members of the community, and it’s not necessarily just myself or people I play with.
It leads to people having a negative perception of your admins and your server and I don’t see how that benefits anyone or helps the tiny community surrounding this game. It really wasn’t a huge issue and I don’t see why R1ghty had to engage with such hostility. Clearly you don’t want to hear it so that’s okay. Have a good day.
Regards,
Chef
It leads to people having a negative perception of your admins and your server and I don’t see how that benefits anyone or helps the tiny community surrounding this game. It really wasn’t a huge issue and I don’t see why R1ghty had to engage with such hostility. Clearly you don’t want to hear it so that’s okay. Have a good day.
Regards,
Chef
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4 years 5 months ago #27967
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Some players are just seeking to be disruptive. They get treated accordingly. We really dont want to admin the same few players all the time or have the all chat used as a bitch session....one player starts bitching, then his friends ...it goes on and on.
I have no idea who you are and to my knowledge no admin has a problem with TZ. Someone did mention that some TZ players were, in the past, banned but I dont remember the details. We try to be consistent with the rules and the treatment of players. This sometimes fails but we try. All we want is to make the gameplay enjoyable for the majority of players. There will always be a percentage of the community who will not like us. We accept that. The beauty of this game is that there are other servers an opportunities to create a server. We can never please everyone and we accept that.
As to your specific situation it seems u got kicked for allchat about the next map and came into discord to complain. I understand the approach you took but my guess is that there is more to the story. Maybe the admin set a skirmish map or maybe he saw it next and left it...I dont know...just make a map vote report and the admin will know...
I have no idea who you are and to my knowledge no admin has a problem with TZ. Someone did mention that some TZ players were, in the past, banned but I dont remember the details. We try to be consistent with the rules and the treatment of players. This sometimes fails but we try. All we want is to make the gameplay enjoyable for the majority of players. There will always be a percentage of the community who will not like us. We accept that. The beauty of this game is that there are other servers an opportunities to create a server. We can never please everyone and we accept that.
As to your specific situation it seems u got kicked for allchat about the next map and came into discord to complain. I understand the approach you took but my guess is that there is more to the story. Maybe the admin set a skirmish map or maybe he saw it next and left it...I dont know...just make a map vote report and the admin will know...
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