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Spandrel, TOW MTLB, SPG techies: TANK squad or APC

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8 years 1 month ago #7631 by Danesh_italiano
Replied by Danesh_italiano on topic Spandrel, TOW MTLB, SPG techies: TANK squad or APC
ATGM vehicle can not be on the APC squad. The icon is the same SPG icon and atgm vehicle dont do a apc/ifv job.
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8 years 1 month ago #7635 by =HOG=Haley11thACR
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it can be anywhere we say it is
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8 years 1 month ago #7637 by Danesh_italiano
Replied by Danesh_italiano on topic Spandrel, TOW MTLB, SPG techies: TANK squad or APC

Haley,
Can just change the one sentence from

Tank squads require a minimum of 4 members before being locked.

to

Main battle tank squads require a minimum of 4 members before being locked.


Vehicles that are still in dispute (unclaimable or not?) are:

Open-air gunner position. (similar to non-CROWS HMMWV)
US: M113
MEC:Boragh

Chinese: ZSL-92A

German: TPz Fuchs 1A8

French: VAB VTT

Similar to CROWS
Chinese: VN-3

Dutch: Fennek VWWRN


Yes, those vehicles is like HMMWV. For example, in Op Marlin, every squad take the VAB VTT. In Ulyanovsk, every squad take the TPz Fuchs 1A8. In black gold, every squad take the ZSL-92A. BUT the icon is similar to a apc icon.

AND ON MY OPINION, ATGM vehicle can not be on the APC squad. The icon is the same as SPG car. And atgm vehicle dont do a apc/ifv job. The same with BRDM2 and VN3. They dont have APC icon and is not consider a APC/IFV.
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8 years 1 month ago - 8 years 1 month ago #7742 by Sabwarfare
The rule of tank squad needing minimum 4 to lock, is narrow and doesn't properly cover some maps that only have 1 tank on a team. This is also true for apc squad needing minimum 6 to lock. This should read: 4 is needed for tank unless fewer than 2 vehicles claimable. And 6 for apc squad unless fewer than 3 vehicles claimable

Also, some of these "apcs" don't carry anyone but driver & gunner.

I would propose:

vehicles like spandrel, and any other armored vehicle that doesn't actually carry passengers, and meets the claimable assets standards, be claimed by tank squad if there are MBTs on the layout, being played, for that team. Otherwise they are claimed by apc

Any vehicle that doesn't require a special kit to use main weapon is not claimable.
Any vehicle that has no weapon is not claimable.
Any vehicle that does not require a driver present in the driver seat to enter the main gun position is not claimable.
Last edit: 8 years 1 month ago by Sabwarfare.
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8 years 1 month ago - 8 years 1 month ago #7838 by fenneclat

If there is no squad for a given asset anyone can use the asset if it is manned properly. If a squad is created in the interim they must join that squad or relinquish the asset.

Your suggestions would require extensive admining and not allow the admin to play the game as he would have to constantly monitor who has been authorized to use what asset and review the logs or take notes to determine who is allowed what asset and who was asked to return what asset...its an admining nightmare.


Above: This is going to get confusing for admins as there's nothing defined for this situation.

Post below linked to this thread:

The rule of tank squad needing minimum 4 to lock, is narrow and doesn't properly cover some maps that only have 1 tank on a team. This is also true for apc squad needing minimum 6 to lock. This should read: 4 is needed for tank unless fewer than 2 vehicles claimable. And 6 for apc squad unless fewer than 3 vehicles claimable

Also, some of these "apcs" don't carry anyone but driver & gunner.

I would propose:

vehicles like spandrel, and any other armored vehicle that doesn't actually carry passengers, and meets the claimable assets standards, be claimed by tank squad if there are MBTs on the layout, being played, for that team. Otherwise they are claimed by apc

Any vehicle that doesn't require a special kit to use main weapon is not claimable.
Any vehicle that has no weapon is not claimable.
Any vehicle that does not require a driver present in the driver seat to enter the main gun position is not claimable.

Simple.

Last edit: 8 years 1 month ago by fenneclat.
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8 years 1 month ago #7839 by =HOG=Haley11thACR
Replied by =HOG=Haley11thACR on topic Spandrel, TOW MTLB, SPG techies: TANK squad or APC
spandrels already go with apc...is there any admin that does not know this? Is it somehow confusing?
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