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DanielGrushin Ban Appeal

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4 years 4 months ago #28176 by =HOG=Haley11thACR
Replied by =HOG=Haley11thACR on topic DanielGrushin Ban Appeal
We allow shooting from main/ DOD. Noone should be skirting main or DOD. You cannot shoot down anything over the airstrip even if its 3000ft up. Battle recorder is up it we just have a new ip so it takes time to configure access to it.
You seem to be a constant problem. Why is that? How is it nearly every other player has no where near the problems u have? Do u think its everyone else or do you think it is you who is somehow different? Dont camp main. It's simple. If u are near main or DOD u are wrong. If u get shot at and fire back u are wrong. Stay away from main and DOD.
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4 years 4 months ago #28177 by Mackey Moose
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I don't understand how telling him to stay away from main and DOD is productive when the last flag on Thunder is literally on the DOD line for the russian main so in order to support the team you have to be near DOD. Also playing with Daniel quite a bit I can attest to his character and say he would never intentionally engage a target within DOD. In this situation the hinds were dumping rockets from the DOD line constantly and the view distance is so low it is quite difficult for the F-16 pilot to tell where exactly the hind is. I was there and do not believe it was intentional.
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4 years 4 months ago #28178 by =HOG=Haley11thACR
Replied by =HOG=Haley11thACR on topic DanielGrushin Ban Appeal
Noone is saying that when certain situation, like the last flag on this map bordering DOD, that u cannot engage....But players will exploit this...anticipate the next flag, begin stalking DOD... The problem is every map is different and would require a subset of rules for each map each flag situation, each team, exact distances and durations...it would be a nightmare of rules to understand and comply with.

The most simple way to put it is stay away from main and DOD.

There will always be exceptions.

But the majority of the time we have armor or cas trolling the edges of DOD looking to poach easy kills.

We all know the common offenders.

We all know that they make excuse after excuse.

What we want is fair game play that the majority of players can enjoy.

We dont want to make a rule for every scenario.

We want players to respect other players, play fairly and use common sense.

Having to constantly police the same players over and over indicates that they lack respect for other players, the game and lack common sense.

Banning those players makes the game play better for everyone.
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4 years 4 months ago #28180 by =HOG=ShrapGnoll
Replied by =HOG=ShrapGnoll on topic DanielGrushin Ban Appeal
I copied as much as I saw from the logs, what is posted in my first reply is not the complete logs they are huge. The grid was discussed.

[01:57:22 GLOBAL] ShrapGnoll: have prism open
[01:57:30 GLOBAL] ShrapGnoll: who was killed by cas?
[01:57:34 T1 SQUAD 5] prWARs sprint113: !r evox
[01:57:43 T1 SQUAD 1] <(00)> Evox: !r m3kp8

If they are shooting from DOD report in game or on the forums after the game. If you don't like the outcome deal with it. Don't rule break based on your own opinion of the matter.

You are not the first player to argue about this. Just search "cas dod" with a date range of all in the forums.
It's the most common ban reason excluding slurs.

hogclangaming.com/index.php/forum/ban-appeals/5294-ban-appeal
hogclangaming.com/index.php/forum/ban-ap...49-ban-appeal-migcap
hogclangaming.com/index.php/forum/ban-appeals/5157-ban-appeal
hogclangaming.com/index.php/forum/ban-appeals/5127-ban-appeal
hogclangaming.com/index.php/forum/ban-appeals/5050-ban-appeal
hogclangaming.com/index.php/forum/how-ca...in-report-shrapgnoll
hogclangaming.com/index.php/forum/bf2-ba...peal-idontpanicallot
hogclangaming.com/index.php/forum/ban-ap...dod-air-space-breach

Each server has its own rules, if you want to fly on HOG you have to follow HOG rules.
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4 years 4 months ago #28181 by BRZbruh
Replied by BRZbruh on topic DanielGrushin Ban Appeal
Great, at least the one thing we learned from this is that we can abuse the Dod rule on this map. Epic.
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4 years 4 months ago #28182 by DanielGrushin
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If u are near main or DOD u are wrong. If u get shot at and fire back u are wrong. Stay away from main and DOD.
Noone is saying that when certain situation, like the last flag on this map bordering DOD, that u cannot engage

Haley please make up your mind on this topic

We all know the common offenders.
Yeaaaah...We don't

What we want is fair game play that the majority of players can enjoy
I'm sure our inf at the last flag had fair gameplay being constantly killed by hind hiding in DoD and crying "DON'T SHOOT US IN DOD" at first glance of lock

I copied as much as I saw from the logs, what is posted in my first reply is not the complete logs they are huge. The grid was discussed.

[01:57:22 GLOBAL] ShrapGnoll: have prism open
[01:57:30 GLOBAL] ShrapGnoll: who was killed by cas?
[01:57:34 T1 SQUAD 5] prWARs sprint113: !r evox
[01:57:43 T1 SQUAD 1] <(00)> Evox: !r m3kp8

If only I could download BR and prove that it was nowhere near this grid... If only
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